Saturday, March 5, 2011

Skilled Migration to US: An Email Discussion with Old Friends

Please read the emails bottom up, like in the real emails. These are real, by the way. Names, places, and email addresses are fake but the content is as real as it gets. Enjoy!


Disclaimer:
Email addresses are all made up except prayash.nepali@gmail.com. I apologize in case there are such email addresses.

Aliases:
Prayash Nepali = motte, mote
Ashes Rizal = lambo, lambu
Saman Babu Adhikari = guru
Suren Kharel = kale
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Subject: Re: keta ho!
From: rizalashes@htmail.com
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:20:07 -0700
CC: adhikarisb@htmail.com; prayash.nepali@gmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
To: jhasudeer@htmail.com

Incidentally sometime ago I also wrote a letter to Obama asking him whether he has any plans of ending/reforming this new form of bonded labor in the US called H1B, but since then I have realized that liberals here don't have balls the size of a grain to do anything bold. It will definitely be their loss if they kick anyone of us out the country, but then we are assuming these morons know what's right for their country (I really miss talking politics with you guys). I always thought that America is a country of progressives but then again I also thought that I would find high rises every where in this country. Despite all there is no other country I would like to emigrate to more than this. What scares me the most about this green card process is that no matter which process you go through, there is always a possibility that my application will be adjudicated by a wacko whose sole source of news is Glenn Beck. My lifestyle hasn't turned any more American than it already was. I would rather be in a place where there are a few Nepalese than here but then again I don't have a choice for now, but like I said before for all I have, I can't complain..

I might surprise Saman and call him from the closest airport sometime soon. I find facebook real hard to manage for some reason, twitter is great actually. It might not be a bad idea to follow each other in twitter, just 140 chars. What do y'all say? I would like to add to the various reflections made about our group in this real long chain of emails. For me as long as we can be ourselves in front of each other with all our dharras and believe that we won't be judged for being who we are, our friendship will live on....

take care..

---Ashes

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From: prayash.nepali@gmail.com
To: jhasudeer@htmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; rizalashes@htmail.com
CC: adhikarisb@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com; su_kha@htmail.com

Sudeer mula,
If you want to write a good dissertation, based on your email you will have to work on your writing skills. Oops!!! I know. I know. I can be an ***hole.
I've read your book too though, so I know the potential ;)
Prayash.

PS: If Raz can read these emails silently, so can kale.


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From: adhikarisb@htmail.com
To: rizalashes@htmail.com; jhasudeer@htmail.com
CC: prayash.nepali@gmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
Subject: RE: keta ho!
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:02:41 +0530

Jha sounds like PHD candidate now. Good going bro.

REgards,
Saman

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On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Sudeer Jha wrote:

Folks!
From what I could grasp from my limited English , I did not get all the application categories motte was referring to! Anyways, this is just to reiterate that despite you guys being in touch over the phone in US, I feel like exchange of emails helps to reconnect and bring back the high school memories.

I guess our perception and the notion of group identity unfold and change as time passes by. For me, it's not important that our high school gang of lucky seven remain intact or how much we live up to our expectations; the fact we still ponder upon it and sometimes may be nostalgic about reflecting upon the past; perceiving eath others' pesonalities from the same old lenses ( ...although ' few things never change' but we live in dynamic world and chaning societies, our changing live circumstances and context we will live would definitely impact on our worldviews as well as our thoughts over our historicity/our collective past....) all these engender commonalities and stuffs to sharea and dwell upon ...despite our specificities and individualities are worth acknowledging.

However, guru will definitley hook up with a girl if he also initiate from his side genuinely and accept the fact that it is nice to have woman's company in life; lambo's determination and ambitions growing as ever, may be his strategic plannings will continue to yield results, i hope he gets time to spend timeless time his Ambu and Arye despite his work; i enojoyed converstaiont between mote and guru, hopefully he will save some of his guitar skills since its eroding at my end! Chalaune mystery man! i dont know where his life is heading although i can sense that its quite monotonous work schedule for him, my first email actually didnt go to raz,, good that he is in the loop atleast and glad that we dont have to tolerate kaley ko dharra, yes he is definitley out of the email list but dont know if he seize to exist in my memory!

For me i feel myself amazed to seize rare opportunities to travel around world, definitly not a globe trotter, but i guess i will have to spend ample time with fisher folks called Sonaha in Karnali river across bardiya national park, trying whatever ways its possible to contribute in their struggles, making their existence, identity, knowledge visible in mainstream conservation discourse, hopefully resolve ethical dilemma i am grappling with as academic student researchers, will come up sth meaningful at the end of my phd journey!

I dont know five years down the line, which state or coutry you guys would be based, but definitely physical boundaries between countries are getting fuzzy and fluid, atleast in terms of socially connecting, sometimes you relate to a person million miles apart meaningfully rather than those in your vicinity. So where and how far you guys are, is not that important than the social space we share!!!

Aru kuru gardai garaula saath haru!

Sudeer


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From: adhikarisb@htmail.com
To: prayash.nepali@gmail.com; rizalashes@htmail.com
CC: jhasudeer@htmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
Subject: RE: keta ho!
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:07:49 +0530



Prayash Nepali aka Motte, Following up on our last conversation, stress and hair loss are indeed related. Go check. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/stress-and-hair-loss/AN01442. Sudeere is a Drama King big time, no doubt. I know I am not perfect either but I kinda feel like I am getting there and you are far behind. ;-) Since I know you from childhood, I was just a little concerned about your pace.  How about that? ha ha ha ha. I am ready for a show of hands if you are still not convinced. 

Ashes, send me the picture of your family, I don't use social network of the commons. :-). Chalaune, may be you can come to CA for thanksgiving or Christmas. I know motte and lambu won't be able to make it this time. Raz must be reading these but won't reply but that's how he is.

Regards,
Saman


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From: prayash.nepali@gmail.com
To: rizalashes@htmail.com; adhikarisb@htmail.com
CC: jhasudeer@htmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
Subject: RE: keta ho!
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 02:34:15 +0000

There's no need to worry. Saman is working on growing his hair back or so he told me last time we talked. He's got some magic formula going on, lol. About a girl, auntie le dozens of photos teslai email ma pathai rahanu bha hola, haha.
About the immigration bit, all my hopes are down the drain with the results of this midterm election. I even wrote a letter to Obama in hopes of an immigration reform. So much for that! As far as investing my youth here is concerned, I am actually quite thankful for all the scholarship money this country has given me. If the likes of us have to return home or resettle in a third country, it is actually a loss for this country. Having said that, I do want to stay here above anywhere else and I will gladly accept an honorary green card ;). Going back to Nepal might be a different story but that's a complicated or should I say a confusing topic as you all know. I had never considered Singapore as even an option. That might actually work pretty well huh! I'd like to be closer to home and be able to take a quick flight on a long weekend that can be turned into a week long vacation.
Lambu is making his PR processing sound like a nightmare. It's gotta be a smooth process if we're talking EB2, right?? So I've heard anyhow. I have absolutely no hopes in the EB3 category application that my company is sponsoring me on. I am waiting on I-140 decision to come back and then of course the I-485, or whatever I- it is, is a never ending story. I have better chances with the DV lottery this year or better yet KK will finish up her PhD in about a year or so and may be we can pull off something there. Anyhow, if I start thinking about this PR process, my brain goes numb.
Ani, Saman Babu, yes motte is motte. Time brings change in all of us but some of our traits, for better or for worse, stays. I hate to burst your bubble but you're not perfect either. Far from it. We have to endure you as much as you endure us ;). I do enjoy your calls though, so keep them coming. You're my sole portal now to the exclusive high school group that we were or should I say you guys were, lol. Sad to see kale being dropped, but I find it hard to believe that most of us keep in touch with one another on a regular basis anyhow. It's been long a lost cause. But these email bursts are quite productive as far as updates on our lives are concerned.
Lambu seems to be enjoying his very western American lifestyle. You've been to a rodeo yet? And I absolutely enjoyed Arye's picture on facebook. Facebook is a good tool, I think, if used in moderation, I should add. Ani, lambu, you said you talked to Raz. What's going on in his life?
Manan, I think you were planning on driving down to KC. Feel free anytime. I moved again to an apartment in the downtown area. So lots of bars and restaurants in a walking distance, if you guys decide to come down here.
Sudeer, make sure you don't buy your tickets to Nepal before the 10th of January. I sent you my itinerary 3-4 months early, so you'll have absolutely no fucking excuse. You can be quite a drama king at times, we all know that :). Me -- only once in Galchhi when I drank a few bottles of beer and accidentally smoked something I had never smoked before. Oh well, those good old days!!!
Aru pachhi,

Prayash.


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Subject: Re: keta ho!
From: rizalashes@htmail.com
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:37:22 -0700
CC: prayash.nepali@gmail.com; jhasudeer@htmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
To: adhikarisb@htmail.com

Hi Guys,
                Seriously we need to hook up Saman with a chick before he loses his mind like he is losing his hair. I would do it but I haven't seen another Nepali (who isn't related to me) in more than a year. Last I talked to him he wanted to marry a nice Nepali girl. And for the record I have put my 5 or 10 year plans on hold because apparently I have very little idea of and control over what my future holds for me, for I want to live in the land of the immigrants with surprisingly stupid immigration policy. If anything like Chalaune said, they should give motte honorary green card for he has so much of his youth invested in this country. We are comparatively a lot less vested in this nation. I can't complain, although I want to. Those of you who use facebook unlike me might have seen a few family pictures of us posted by Ambu. Damn, we look great together : -). I thought that Sudeere's globe trotting might be on hold for a while but apparently not. I actually had called you a few weeks ago and left a message on your voicemail. It was nice talking to Raz after a long long time. I hope he gets his life sorted out. Unless something miraculous happens in Nepal, most likely I will end up being an immigrant somewhere, so I will make an effort not to get hurt when Arye calls me an immigrant. While we are talking about our immigration choices, I want to throw in Singapore in the mix. It seems to be a good country to live in. It even gives out a year long visa to search for a job. It's close to home, what do y'all think? My fate in this country will likely be decided by a bunch of overworked and underpaid government workers next year. Then I might be able to go back to my 5 year plans. On a serious note, don't forget to give your votes to elect Anuradha Koirala as the CNN hero.

Take Care...

--Ashes


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On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Saman B Adhikari wrote:

Jha and the rest,

Good to hear from you after a while. I was in fact thinking about you a couple of days ago. I didn't know you were in Japan. If you are going to be in Nepal for six months starting January, we might see each other back home. May be this time, you should seriously try to hook me up with some girl. I am thinking may be I should make another trip back home around March/April, but I am not quite sure yet. If not next year, I am pretty sure we will catch up in 2012. I might just make a trip to downunder (right, motte?). Motte sounds typical motte in an email. Some people don't change :-). I guess, most of them don't. BTW, I need to look up recumbent and peladas in dictionary after I close this email, seems like he is doing quite a bit of reading these days. I try to talk to Chalaune, Motte and Ashese sometimes. Thankfully, two of them return calls. Another one is always busy with his 5 or 10 year plans. Now that he has a daughter, it is quite understandable that he needs to devote even more time planning which means less time socializing. I am pretty sure that Arye, when she grows up, will call him an immigrant. :-). When motte is done honing his guitar skills, may be we should form a band (like an old guys band). At the pace he is working on his guitar skills, I am pretty sure that I will learn something myself and Arye could probably be our lead singer since Raz's voice will be old and choppy by then. I hope "indigneous fisher folks in Bardiya" will benefit from Sudeere's PhD. I don't know what his research is on but the fisher folks kinda sound cool. May be that's how they refer to fishermen in Australia.

On a more personal side, life is pretty boring on my end. Work is pretty crazy right now and may be for another couple of months. With the way it is going, I am not quite sure if this is what I would love to do the rest of my life. But for now, I haven't found anything that pays better than this, so we will see how it goes. My company is trying to work on the permanent residency stuff, if nothing materializes in next 1 and half years then I will start thinking about alternatives. If it doesn't work out for me here, I might just come to Australia. UK and Nepal are the next options. I encourage other guys to look at that option too. It seems like most of us will qualify for the PR. May be we should all go there and start a small community, I am pretty sure they will have jobs for techies. Even if they don't have it for techies, once you have PR you can do whatever. I have asked Motte to do a feasibility study when he is there (:-)).  I don't see KALE in the official email list, which is a good thing. I am done with that **cker. Rest is best at my end.

Regards,
Saman


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From: prayash.nepali@gmail.com
To: jhasudeer@htmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; rizalashes@htmail.com
CC: adhikarisb@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
Subject: RE: keta ho!
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:06:04 +0000

We'll be there alright. Our itinerary hasn't changed. I'm glad you're enjoying life. I suppose that's what it's for :) Are you still planning on doing a comparative study of the fisherman indigenous community and one of the aborigines tribes? Anyhow, good luck with the research.
It was good to see some Rizal family pictures indeed. My hello to Ambu and the little one (Arye).
Saman, Manan ra Raz lai ni mero samjhana.
My updates -- Not much has changed in KC. The vicious cycle of work and home continues. I need to shed a few pounds, learn to spend more time reading, and go sign up for that long awaited guitar class but I don't see any of it happening in the foreseeable future. I got one of them recumbent exercise bikes to try and at least feel a bit better about the arrival of winter and the lack of Sunday evening soccer peladas. Majushree Thapa's "A boy from Siklis" is interesting so far but I'm taking way too long to finish it. And I do take some time to dust off the semi-acoustic guitar and tune it once in a while. So I guess life is not all that bad.
KK says hello to y'all.
Ahile lai yeti nai---
Prayash.

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From: jhasudeer@htmail.com
To: prayash.nepali@gmail.com; mananchalaune@htmail.com; rizalashes@htmail.com
CC: adhikarisb@htmail.com; razs@htmail.com
Subject: keta ho!
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:48:27 +0530

Folks!
Time flies when you are abroad. It's been almost 4 months since I've been away from Nepal. Soon I'll begin my doctoral research in Nepal. Hopefully by mid January next year. Trip to Japan was fun and a good  learning experience. Life is rolling on smoothly with Riya, although both of us don't quite have the married feeling just yet heheee.

I am planning to be in Nepal for 6 months beginning from mid Jan next year, spending times mostly with , and a bit in Chitwan and Koshi Tapu. Well, although I am yet to come up with my sound theoretical framework, i hope to move on with the research project, because the scholarships are set to expire in three and a half years. I don't know what my life will be after phd... wish I could be so farsighted.

Anyways, it was nice to see lambo chori ko snaps, haven't heard much from you guys.

I hope mote will be in here first week of Jan, and hopefully we can catch up soon. Hope to hear from you guys soon.

Konichuwa!
ciao

Sudeer